hybriddnb Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 Looking at upgrading my mixer ~ got a couple of options.. pioneer djm400 or Rane empath ?? not sure which to go for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pakage Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 added a poll for ya i rekkon Rane to be honest bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 (edited) http://www.dmcworld.co.nz/mixers/korg-km202.html I played with this in DMC a month or two ago, that effects pad is sweet, the faders work perfectly and it looks cool, plus its cheap. But since its only 2 channels and I have no idea if it won't break down in a month or two the A&H Zone 32 is pure WIN! Edited February 2, 2008 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 Pioneer Djm 800 is the only Pioneer worth bothering with imo, so id have to say Rane. But, at the end of the day, Allen and Heath ftw every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teret Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 having only read the thread title RANE or gtfo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simcard Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 Get Allen Heath xzone 32 ive had mine of 6 months its so easy to mix on and nice faders. Its not as pricey as empath or djm-400 but in my opinion is better. Order off the internet it will be around a $1100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pakage Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 the empath is a pretty simple mixer. it doesnt have effects or anything too fancy. However it does have the capability to have an external effects unit hooked up to it if you really need the filters & flangers and shit.. Also it does have analoguely adjustable cross fader and channel fader curves which is cool. It means you can easily use the mixer for both mixing and scratching. And i find that its minimal design means that even though it doesnt have all the bells and whistles, what it does have is solid as fuck. The EQ's actually do what theyre meant to do, ie. if you turn the bass EQ down it kills the bass without killing the midrange much or at all. Its quite a hard thing to do aparantly, as soo many mixers fuck it up.. i freakin hate it when you flick the bass off and it almost cuts out the whole tune.. They use lots of quality components in the rane's like penny & guile faders which are the same ones they use in the Allen & Heath mixers etc.. like tom said. Rane or GTFO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 The DJM 800 is sweet but between the two you are looking at it has to be the Empath, or as was mentioned, you could give the Xone32 a look. I haven't used the 32 before but the 92 is by far the best piece of dj equipment I've ever used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hybriddnb Posted February 2, 2008 Author Share Posted February 2, 2008 thanks for the input lads, i decided to go with the empath ~ looks like a sweet mixer and can't wait to get my hands on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grind Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 Good choice, RANE FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shucks Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Rane is seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek maaate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugsy Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 ableton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perceptualChaos Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 if you turn the bass EQ down it kills the bass without killing the midrange much or at all. Its quite a hard thing to do aparantly, as soo many mixers fuck it up.. i freakin hate it when you flick the bass off and it almost cuts out the whole tune The Xone'62 @ UPFM was doing that to me last night! I hadn't experienced that before and was real put off. Anyone else have that problem with the UP FM mixer? And do all the 62's do it or is just that mixer that's fucked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grind Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Rane's have the best EQs and best faders out of any mixer IMO. The A&Hs have the best filters and the best club sound. Pioneers have the best effects all round.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 if you turn the bass EQ down it kills the bass without killing the midrange much or at all. Its quite a hard thing to do aparantly, as soo many mixers fuck it up.. i freakin hate it when you flick the bass off and it almost cuts out the whole tune The Xone'62 @ UPFM was doing that to me last night! I hadn't experienced that before and was real put off. Anyone else have that problem with the UP FM mixer? And do all the 62's do it or is just that mixer that's fucked? That is the exact reason I bought the 92 and not the 62. In my opinion it is a huge flaw. Basically you have to ensure not to pull back the bass eq on the 62 all the way which is a stupid thing to ask of a madman dj in the midst of a wild tech mix. And yes, it is not just the Up FM 62, it is all 62's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perceptualChaos Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Ah ok that's good to know... In your experience, where abouts is the best place to put the bass knob on the 62 when you want to take out as much bass as possible without taking out most of the tune? 9 o'clock ish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Nah you can actually go really close to the 7 o'clockish stopping point, if you just muck about with 1 tune you will hear a definite cut point where the bass/mid cuts out. It is designed to be used as some sort of bizarre kill switch replacement as far as I can tell. So yeah, it doesn't actually affect the eq until you get to the very end of the rotation, but a slight slip can make a mix sound terrible. Not the sort of thing I want to be wary of when mixing. I don't know if the 32 suffers the same issue but it is nowhere to be seen on the 92's as you would well know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Dude why even bother using the EQ's with sick filters like that? Unfortunately one of them is fucked at UPfm so yea that sux. Not a big issue though just leave the bass at 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hakomi Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Yeah i got really confused when i played at coherent and bunged a few mixes up. I think its a 62 at coherent it was alright after a while playing but still very annoying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perceptualChaos Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Dude why even bother using the EQ's with sick filters like that? Unfortunately one of them is fucked at UPfm so yea that sux. Not a big issue though just leave the bass at 3... Haha yeah i noticed that as well on the UPfm mixer after fucking up a few filter sweeps. I was doing my bass cutting with the HPF's on the 92 for a while but I stopped because I found it was just one more thing to keep track of i.e. you need to make sure the bass is up AND the filter is off when you're trying to drop a tune. It sucks when you take the filter down / off and the tune drops with no bass cause you forgot that you had the bass knob down as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perceptualChaos Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Oh and you need to make sure you have the resonance off as well if you want to use the filters for bass-cutting, otherwise it'll sound terrible... Too much to worry about imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 For me it equals less to worry about, I never even touch the eqs unless i have to boost something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perceptualChaos Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 yeah I guess it could work for some people personally I like to do a lot of EQ in the mids and highs as well as lots of filter sweeps with high resonance so if i'm doing my basscuts with the filters it means I have to worry about the filter switch, cutoff, and resonance on both channels which is an extra 6 things to keep track of. Add that to the 4 eq bands, signal levels (very important with CDJ's), and volume faders on both channels and it starts to become a bit of a mission These days I just keep the resonace on both filters to a little less than max and only switch them on when i'm actually doing a sweep then straight back off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Yeah the resonance thing is interesting eh, i dont reckon it sounds too bad mixing with it on about 4 or so. And it sounds dope sweeping the next tune in with it on full sometimes imo. Just dont overuse i reckon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now