Pakage Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Hey guys, as most of you know im neck deep in a pile of shit at the moment and im trying to dig myself out to atleast waist height.. theres a couple things i can do to try and get given a light sentence: firstly i need to build a good character case for myself and proving to the courts that i've turned my life around. Im doing this by supplying the courts with a voluntary drug test to show im clean, attending CADS (Community Alcohol & Drug Services) group meetings, booking myself into a live-in rehab course and providing them proof that in general i have a positive effect of society through my charity work and my skill sets. secondly, using case law i need to try and prove to the judge by using previous sentences as examples that he wouldnt be being inconsistant by letting me off lightly. So i found this website that contains all the case notes and that for New Zealand and am currently trying to dig through them to find similar cases to mine. Theres heaps though.. if anyone has some spare time and they wanna have a dig to try and find some example cases for me to give to my lawyer to present to the judge then feel free. the website is: http://www.nzlii.org basically, im looking for any cases that are against first time offenders for the possession of A class controlled drugs for supply. any will do, but preferrably ones with minimal sentences like home detention or something. post up your finds here. cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 nothing else to do so having look now bro, having trouble finding which page u look through all the cases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cramer Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 you might need to help us out a bit here paks can you post up a link that more specifically locates NZ District court descisions/case law i cant seem to find it on the site, only high court, appeals and taxation and crap, no district stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 click on advanced search, brings up your options, not one that mentions just district court rulings though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 after looking through the high court one for a little i got this one http://www.nzlii.org/nz/cases/NZHC/2007/62.html its somewhat similar but yeah nd its a bit of a sentance, ill keep looking tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cramer Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 man i havn't seen 1 district court descision on that site yet... i don't think it has any. i dont even know if there is an oline database of criminal rulings from the DC... if you can find one paks ill put in some work4 ya. also: are you sure you can use case law in the DC ? holla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cramer Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 apologies i may be slightly retarded. is this gonna be in the high court? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pakage Posted April 11, 2008 Author Share Posted April 11, 2008 its gonna be high court because the offences are indictable.. i think mike's on the right track.. go to advanced search and then you can choose which part of the site to search, choose high court or maybe case law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perceptualChaos Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 after looking through the high court one for a little i got this one http://www.nzlii.org/nz/cases/NZHC/2007/62.html its somewhat similar but yeah nd its a bit of a sentance, ill keep looking tho fuck that dude is an idiot - getting caught with more meth and cash while he was on bail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 haha yeah definatly not the smartest of characters, but if he got 3 and a half for that (correct me if reading it wrong at the end of the document) then no doubt you'll get a bit less than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perceptualChaos Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 i couldn't understand whether he got 3½ total or 3½ for the meth charges plus all the other shit - it seemed to be the latter but there was a sentence in there that suggested it could be the former that i'm not sure about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 yeah i understood it as being 3 1/2 because it was longest sentance or something, which i guess is bit better for you pakage! and jus quick question sale vs supply... difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Known One Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 not to be rude... well done finding that case but honestly I think it's not relevant enough to this situation as anything to do with Meth is going to be treated a lot differently. I'll be on that website combing for ya Pakage as soon as I get back to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pakage Posted April 11, 2008 Author Share Posted April 11, 2008 anything to do with Meth is going to be treated a lot differently. unfortunately i had 19 grams of cut speed on me, and theyre trying to charge me with 19 grams of meth for supply.. aparantly it doesnt matter about the quality. all the lab results are gonna come back and say is "there was 19 grams of powder which contained meth" even if its only like 1gram of meth to 18 grams of glucose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam b aka Antic Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Sup Bruv this shit is lame.... Anyway had a look on that website found this case http://www.nzlii.org/cgi-bin/sinodisp/nz/cases/NZHC/2008/111.html?query=drug%20conviction the name of the case is: R V ADENE KAHA BROUGHTON AND ORS HC WANG CRI 2007-083-1429 [2008] NZHC 111 (20 February 2008) Basically 3 guys charged with conspiracy to supply a class a drug. They got 12 months 12 months and 8 months respectively. This was for methamphtamine and they also had mob connections which may have fucked them a bit. Hope that helps let me know if I'm off the mark citing this case and I'll refine my search criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perceptualChaos Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 it's gonna be a tough one eh... check these cases out - all from the high court. I got them from a different website and think i pretty much looked at all of the relevant cases there were about 60 of them cases 1 One of them (127140) got home detention but it was quite a bit less gear than what you got caught with tbh: four individually packed bags of methamphetamine (a total of 0.72 grams), a tin which held 13 tabs of LSD, 7 individually packed bags of cannabis (a total of 78 grams) and a further 3.23 grams of cannabis in a tin. There were some cannabis seeds and valuable building tools that had earlier been reported stolen. The Police also found weighing equipment, a supply of plastic bags and in total $4,910 in cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 goodluck craig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mashup Mafia Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Umm, I know someone who had quite a substantial amount more than you on them. Did roughly 8 months and then home det for a while. They're quite well known in their scene now, so I'll PM you info. Up to you to contact him and find out relevant infos though bruv. I'm pretty sure his case could be directly compared he was interestingly enough in a fairly similar situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabass Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Hey Pakage this is probly a bit late sorry, but on the LexisNexisNZ website, the one lawyers use alot, I found the case of R v Arthur - [2005] 3 NZLR 739. It concerns mainly sentencing, and has good obiter discussions on purity from the Court of Appeal, and even a table of purity/quantity vs sentence from previous cases. Judges were open to lowering sentence to one or two years, but because dude was caught supplying four teenagers he got the book. good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sect Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Just ask him what seperates you form Mark Ellis. he got off pretty easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grind Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Just ask him what seperates you form Mark Ellis. Marc Ellis was charged with fuck-all though. Can't really compare. When's the next mission out to see Craig fellas? Me and Christie were thinking of heading out this Sunday arvo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphra Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 There's always a few of us going out there every Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robyn Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Yeah I always head out there on sundays so if anyone is ever keen for a lift just let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 should be good for a mish if I can get a lift... will let you know on sat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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