thr339z Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Today The Honerable Helen Clarke PM launched a succint description of labours policy initives and actions it has implimented in its 9 years in power including Kiwi Saver Lowest Unemployment rates in recent NZ history Working For Families Arts Funding FTA with China, along with a long list of other achivements as well as warning the new zealand public that a vote for national would undo all of the above work and send nz back into the past. The date that has been announced for the 2008 general election is November 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 needs 2 more options "I'm not voting" and "other party" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Known One Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Thanks for my interest free student loan Dr Cullen... and thanks for the $2000+ so far in Kiwisaver you gave me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Gunn Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 National in house = no more Kiwi Saver? + Interest on current student loans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thr339z Posted September 12, 2008 Author Share Posted September 12, 2008 National in house = no more Kiwi Saver? + Interest on current student loans? as well as a sell off of any thing new zealand has left. No more creative industries. no possibility of universal student allowence the selling of kiwibank. closer ties with america and their war on terror, nuclear ships being stationed here lower wages. destruction of unions, influx of low quality american consumerable poducts. the collapse of small business in nz. higher tax rates for workers lower rates for the rich/ unemployment will go up... this may seem like theory.. but in reality its not.. the above is EXACTLY what happened. last time they were in except for nz being involved in the war on terror kiwibank.nuclear ships and kiwi saver .. national hate the people and love the rich.. do your reseach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Steppa Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 oh destiny all the way... ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grind Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 National in house = no more Kiwi Saver? + Interest on current student loans? as well as a sell off of any thing new zealand has left. No more creative industries. no possibility of universal student allowence the selling of kiwibank. closer ties with america and their war on terror, nuclear ships being stationed here lower wages. destruction of unions, influx of low quality american consumerable poducts. the collapse of small business in nz. higher tax rates for workers lower rates for the rich/ unemployment will go up... this may seem like theory.. but in reality its not.. the above is EXACTLY what happened. last time they were in except for nz being involved in the war on terror kiwibank.nuclear ships and kiwi saver .. national hate the people and love the rich.. do your reseach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phonetics Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 not allowed to vote, but in an ideal world i'd vote for greens. however, because parliament is dominated by two main parties, a vote for green would be a vote for national...so because of that i'd vote labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teret Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 National in house = no more Kiwi Saver? + Interest on current student loans? as well as a sell off of any thing new zealand has left. No more creative industries. no possibility of universal student allowence the selling of kiwibank. closer ties with america and their war on terror, nuclear ships being stationed here lower wages. destruction of unions, influx of low quality american consumerable poducts. the collapse of small business in nz. higher tax rates for workers lower rates for the rich/ unemployment will go up... this may seem like theory.. but in reality its not.. the above is EXACTLY what happened. last time they were in except for nz being involved in the war on terror kiwibank.nuclear ships and kiwi saver .. national hate the people and love the rich.. do your reseach pictures really do paint a thousand words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thr339z Posted September 13, 2008 Author Share Posted September 13, 2008 National in house = no more Kiwi Saver? + Interest on current student loans? as well as a sell off of any thing new zealand has left. No more creative industries. no possibility of universal student allowence the selling of kiwibank. closer ties with america and their war on terror, nuclear ships being stationed here lower wages. destruction of unions, influx of low quality american consumerable poducts. the collapse of small business in nz. higher tax rates for workers lower rates for the rich/ unemployment will go up... this may seem like theory.. but in reality its not.. the above is EXACTLY what happened. last time they were in except for nz being involved in the war on terror kiwibank.nuclear ships and kiwi saver .. national hate the people and love the rich.. do your reseach pictures really do paint a thousand words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulltimeplay Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Hey all... Can you tell me how I vote from overseas... do I have to do anything or be on a list or what? Personally I'm Greens all the way... can't do no wrong to have a bit of that in there, regardless of who wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 If the country has an NZ embassy you can vote there I'd say. I think you can post your vote too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ems Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 needs 2 more options "I'm not voting" and "other party" And a third. ALCP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Awesome Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 tl;dr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuphoricMilk Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 however, because parliament is dominated by two main parties, a vote for green would be a vote for national...so because of that i'd vote labour. Please correct me if I'm wrong but with MMP wont labour and greens make a coalition meaning a green vote wouldn't really be throwing your vote away to national? meh I don't really know much about it, just scared about Key running the country, man has his fingers in too many pies for him to have that much control.. Oh and another thing, what's up with the notion of having a business man at the top being good for small business and not to mentions the country as a whole? If polls are accurate I'm very scared being the poor, drug taking student that I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phonetics Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 yeah i think i'm wrong actually, i was talking to a work mate about this today too, so if that's the case i'd definately give me vote to greens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thr339z Posted September 25, 2008 Author Share Posted September 25, 2008 however, because parliament is dominated by two main parties, a vote for green would be a vote for national...so because of that i'd vote labour. Please correct me if I'm wrong but with MMP wont labour and greens make a coalition meaning a green vote wouldn't really be throwing your vote away to national? meh I don't really know much about it, just scared about Key running the country, man has his fingers in too many pies for him to have that much control.. Oh and another thing, what's up with the notion of having a business man at the top being good for small business and not to mentions the country as a whole? If polls are accurate I'm very scared being the poor, drug taking student that I am. me too bro me too! I remember last time national were in.. they well and truly fucked up the country. . and well.... they will again , they always do.... and whos to say that key isnt a mad fascist conservative who would go "hmmmmmmm dance music +drugs +crime + terrorists = make it all illegal..." also for me.. and other creatives... its even more scarey as the firts thing to go would be any support for the creative arts which means ... american korean english chinese film money would dry up peter jackson would work off shore the nz music community would be decimated. In 1984 Piggy muldoon pretty much shut down the nz music industry and ity took years for it to get back up on its feet. Then theres things that the nats do that labour def wouldnt IE sell off kiwibank decimate kiwirail, sell off education to corporates sell of ACC to the highest bidder . Anothe thing the ship (jenny shipley ) tried to do was alaunch a "Code Of Responcibility" in 1997 that meant all benificiaries would HAVE to go to parenting classes and any one UNDER 29000$ per annum HAD to register with the state and experienece people working for the state coming to their homes and doing six month audits on all manner of things including religous education.... That shit was gonna be MANDITORY for the working poor . and why? because the nats in tru tory conservative fashion belive that "the true underclass are the reason why morals and the family are carroding" they never seem to see the real reason which is low wages poor education and a user pays society which tradionally the nats create... It amazes me the talk I have heard. its all so superficial and selfish (but well right wingers are always the same) it goes somthing like thjis and its disgustingly misguided "helen clark is ugly we need change im voting for key, he will give me more money (hold tight do you earn over 55k per year?) well no? but helen clark is ugly" now correct me if im wrong ? but that math just down add up.. Its like this.... we are all in a car.. it started out being a fucked run down rusted falling apart datsun.. slowly it got rebuilt and modified and made bling. now 9 years later it goes at 200kms an hour nicely it has the best paint job nicest mags mean stereo... but wait u see a shell a wracked burnt out shell of a mini, its hardly salvageable... now do u wanna keep cruising in the bling ride u have ? getting all the girls and being pestered by redbull and technics for full sponsorship that will take u around the world for free! or do u wanna leave your hard work by the side o the road and start from scratch when its raining and you have no place to do it or tools" think left......think for the future....think for the people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 When i saw your new name i thought you were an ad-bot bro Key will probably get in thanks to good old ignorant, rascist (oops i meant "heartland") New Zealand. Hey he's a successful businessman, he'll have my best interests at heart! No businessman has ever been self-serving, profit driven, reactionary or elitist in the history of the world ever. FACT. Take your liberal namby pamby whale hugging nonsense to Cuba and get your organs harvested by socialised medicine already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 In case you're from heartland New Zealand that was sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 When i saw your new name i thought you were an ad-bot bro Key will probably get in thanks to good old ignorant, rascist (oops i meant "heartland") New Zealand. Hey he's a successful businessman, he'll have my best interests at heart! No businessman has ever been self-serving, profit driven, reactionary or elitist in the history of the world ever. FACT. Take your liberal namby pamby whale hugging nonsense to Cuba and get your organs harvested by socialised medicine already. Gold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teknik Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 It amazes me the talk I have heard. its all so superficial and selfish (but well right wingers are always the same) it goes somthing like thjis and its disgustingly misguided "helen clark is ugly we need change im voting for key, he will give me more money (hold tight do you earn over 55k per year?) well no? but helen clark is ugly" Ha, nail on head bro. I even have friends with those sort of views, but it's not really their fault. They inherited those opinions from their ranting redneck dad/boss/drunken uncle, who most likely uses the phrase 'in this country' far too much ... Unfortunately for these youngsters, they take what they hear to be factual and infallible because it has come from someone they see as a 'hero'. (lol) Then, not having enough of a capacity for critical thinking to form their own opinion, the illogical misguided ravings of their elders are taken on board over the years and deeply ingrained in the psyche as inarguable, incontrovertible fact - and then the cycle continues to the next generation. Pretty fucking sad really. Also lol ... who are the 2 pisstakers that voted Destiny? Surprised it's even in the poll really, is anyone really that stupid? Really? Say it ain't so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Awesome Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Also lol ... who are the 2 pisstakers that voted Destiny? I'm far more worried who voted for NZ first, either Winston has a non-Tauranga supporter, or someone hooked Tauranga up to the interconnect. Either way its more worrying than the party who is in no way affiliated with the church with the same name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzp Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 christian heritage ftw, cause jesus is real yeh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teknik Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Also lol ... who are the 2 pisstakers that voted Destiny? I'm far more worried who voted for NZ first, either Winston has a non-Tauranga supporter, or someone hooked Tauranga up to the interconnect. Either way its more worrying than the party who is in no way affiliated with the church with the same name. Phew, it's not THAT Destiny. A little disappointing really, I was kinda curious to find out who the two neo-nazis among us were! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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