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Mate I dont have time for oil companies, they make up their own prices and when they fuck up they lie like hell but why? because no matter how bad shit is everyone still wants oil. They pretty much couldn't give a shit about the consequences on society for their fuck ups. Its a catch 22.

 

Doesn't look like i'll be going swimming in the Carabean seas anytime soon.

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I think we all share the same opinion that big oil has been screwing up but there isn't much we can do except consume less. As for the oil spill - BP is going to eventually get fucked over for it

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Been following this pretty closely doesn't seem like they're going to be able to close it till they get the relief well drilled. Whats that like another 2 months? Gulf is going to be pretty fucked for decades... plus add in that the oil has just got into the loop current and it's now heading for florida and mexico... it's going to be a pretty messy clean up

 

Also stories are emerging of the fisherman BP hired getting sick from all the fumes

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Been following this pretty closely doesn't seem like they're going to be able to close it till they get the relief well drilled. Whats that like another 2 months? Gulf is going to be pretty fucked for decades... plus add in that the oil has just got into the loop current and it's now heading for florida and mexico... it's going to be a pretty messy clean up

 

Also stories are emerging of the fisherman BP hired getting sick from all the fumes

 

 

far out, i haven't read about the fisherman thing.

 

the way i understood things was that BP could actually block off the well by shoving it full of crap or cement - yet they haven't or didn't try this method first...?!

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hahaha, decent additions guys

 

i guess we could all add to BP's demise by not purchasing from their Service Stations?

 

The service station boycotts never work.

 

Unfortunately this is just another piece in the puzzle of human's completely destroying the Earth :/

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far out, i haven't read about the fisherman thing.

 

http://www.wdsu.com/health/23615203/detail.html

 

 

the way i understood things was that BP could actually block off the well by shoving it full of crap or cement - yet they haven't or didn't try this method first...?!

 

Two things they're thinking of trying now or have tried? Haven't followed it last few days but yea

 

The junk shot is where they shoot shredded tyres, golf balls etc into the pipe to try and block the flow, probably won't work. I don't think they tried it straight away as they had other methods that were far more likely to succeed.

 

The other one is the "Top Kill" method explained here

 

In the Gulf, the "top kill" method intended to stop the runaway flow of oil will likely be tried early next week, BP Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles said Friday.

In the procedure, thick, viscous fluid twice the density of water will be pumped at a high rate into the site of the leak to stop the flow so that it can then be sealed with cement, Suttles said.

"Our best estimate is probably Tuesday," he said, noting that the operation has never been tried in such deep water.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/05/21/gulf.oil.spill/index.html?hpt=T2

 

 

BP's just trying anything now to save face, I doubt any of these will work. It's not going to get plugged till the relief well can be drilled which is still ages away. Fingers crossed I'm wrong though!

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The Russians used to use Nukes to stop undersea oil leaks... they've done it multiple times

 

I don't think they'll do this it's to risky that it would make it far worse

 

Q: Why not just put a big ass bomb right above the wellhead and blow the fucker up? Isn’t that how they do it on land?

A: Explosives are used on land as a firefighting technique. When a well is blowing out on land the fluid usually catches on fire. Before the well can be capped the fire must be extinguished. Once all of the debris is cleared from around the wellhead, a barrel full of explosives is placed into the stream of hydrocarbons and detonated. For a split second after the explosion there is not enough oxygen being mixed with the flow of hydrocarbons to sustain combustion. The fire goes out and the well can be capped.

 

In this case, the well is not on fire (anymore) so the explosives would probably hurt more than they help. While it is possible that they explosion would cause the annulus to pack off, it is more likely that it would cause an “underground” blowout. This is when instead of flowing to the surface it goes into a formation instead…

 

Q: Wait isn’t that a good thing?! No more oil on the surface!

A:…Not so fast slick. The oil would then start leaking up through the seafloor and instead of having one centralized flow of 5,000 bbl/day you have 100 scattered leaks of 50 bbl/day. Containment would be impossible. It would also become impossible to kill the well with a relief well as any fluids pumped into the problem well would go out into formation and then out the seabed.

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I don't think you understand... we're not talking about your run of the mill explosion, we are talking about an atomic bomb... literally hundreds of thousand tonnes worth of TNT.

 

It would collapse the drill hole by applying an extreme force to the seabed, sort of like how walking on the beach causes sand fly holes to close up under your foot because you compacted the sand.

 

It's been done already by the Russians with I think about an 80% success rate.

 

To be clear, I don't think they should do this in the states, I'm just pointing it out as a curiosity

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Some gems...

 

We just saw a shark fight an octopus inside the geyser. Almost made this whole thing worth it.

 

Eating at a very expensive restaurant and spilled salad dressing on my pants. Not sure how to tackle this.

 

A bird just stole my sandwich! You deserve everything you get, nature!!!

 

The styrofoam packaging on these protective booms is captial-B Bad for the environment!
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EM_G: what is your main reasoning?

 

The oil price is not determined 100% by free market trading. It is largely influenced by OPEC which consists of a few oil producing countries such as UAE & Iraq. Many petroleum companies are partially owned by OPEC counties. They get together and agree to adjust supply for oil in order to adjust prices which benefit the interest of the countries in OPEC. However the extent of their influence has decreased due to the discovery of major oil reserves in the US, nevertheless OPEC is still hugely influential. That is why I say they set their own prices.

 

Also BP has been convicted on many other environmental crimes and safety charges. Recent convictions are Texas City Refinery explosion 05 and Prudhoe Bay 06. BP grossly downplayed both events.

 

To be clear I feel this way about ALL oil companies, not only BP.

 

Any ways that’s my 2cents. Thanks for reading.

 

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