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The BP hate seems a little un-justified imo, could have been any oil rig, which BP just leased incidentally.

The US government along with the oil drilling companies knew that the safety equipment designed to prevent catastrophic events like this didn't work very well too.

It just suited everybody to ignore the warnings and keep up business as usual.

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This has happened because most of our politicians take money from the oil companies and therefore are beholden to the oil companies. The US is one the most technologically advanced countries in the world. But we do not secure our oil rigs with acoustic switches - an automatic shut-off device attached to the blowout preventer that stops oil escaping in the case of an explosion. Operators in places like the Persian Gulf and Norway have them [in Norway and Brazil they are a legal requirement], but not in the US.

 

That's because the Bush and Cheney administration allowed safety precautions to be circumvented. [The US discussed making acoustic switches a legal requirement several years ago, but it was decided by the Interior Department's Minerals Management Service, which is closely tied to the oil industry, that the devices, which cost 500,000 dollars (400,000 euros) each, were an unnecessary cost].

 

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The BP hate seems a little un-justified imo, could have been any oil rig, which BP just leased incidentally.

The US government along with the oil drilling companies knew that the safety equipment designed to prevent catastrophic events like this didn't work very well too.

It just suited everybody to ignore the warnings and keep up business as usual.

 

 

i believe they should observe the risks of drilling and make improvements to mitigate the risk [as per Catalyst's reference], rather than just carrying on regardless.

 

in another way, this is a decent wake-up call for those involved.

 

and it might be our turn soon?!

 

 

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Economic rewards, and the fact that as mentioned elsewhere off-shore rigs are good for the marine ecosystem.

Yeah man, the marine ecosystem in the gulf of Mexico is just thriving! Not to mention the lucky fisherman who rely on those waters for their livelihood. They are fucking reaping the economic benefits.

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You know whats soo retarded about this situation? The American Government used to enforce having better fail safes on the rigs which would have stopped this kind of leak happening. Unfortunately this requirement was scrapped during the Regan Administration because it cost $500k per oil rig and most of his campaign funding came from the oil industry.

 

The fact that a $500,000 fail safe could have stopped this (so far) $Billion Dollar ecological tragedy makes me die even more inside.

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Surely it's better to produce as much crude as possible here rather than ship it from the other side of the world.

 

Assuming that New Zealand actually gets to refine some of that crude locally... which I'm interested to know... that and what share of the Oil profits is New Zealand going to see. Probably jack and shit knowing National.

 

Sure we aren't setup as a country with the expertise and industry to do our own exploratory drilling, but I don't think that would stop us investing in a contracting situation rather than essentially letting Brazil explore and profit if they find something. Instead of Brazil investing in our Oil, we should be. But no, what will happen is that Brazil get the vast majority of the Oil/Profits, New Zealand accepts all of the risk and National bum chum up with Oil tycoons for their own personal gains. Industry influencing National Government once again.

 

Hopefully they find nothing.

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Yeah that is fucked.

 

Nah it's a good thing imo.

lol

 

Economic rewards, and the fact that as mentioned elsewhere off-shore rigs are good for the marine ecosystem.

 

Surely it's better to produce as much crude as possible here rather than ship it from the other side of the world.

 

I can't personally put a price on ecological disasters like this happening so close to home. But hey that's just me.

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Economic rewards, and the fact that as mentioned elsewhere off-shore rigs are good for the marine ecosystem.

Yeah man, the marine ecosystem in the gulf of Mexico is just thriving! Not to mention the lucky fisherman who rely on those waters for their livelihood. They are fucking reaping the economic benefits.

 

Right, I guess we should all bin our cars, plastic and dubplates because oil-based products are bad for the environment eh?

 

There's literally tens of thousands of oil rigs around the world. I can't find any numbers and tend do dislike quoting wikipedia but this image is food for thought. Nearly 4000 Oil rigs in the gulf of Mexico in 2006.

 

The benefits to marine life are well documented. Fish are pretty retarded, FADsused to attract fish in the open ocean are basically buoy's tethered to the ocean floor, and fish love artificial reefs and shipwrecks, so it's not hard to see why they really really love four massive steel pylons. You're basically creating a habitat where nothing would be otherwise.

 

I think Brazilian companies have to have more safety features than their Amerikan counterparts too (the $500,000 ones Pakage mentioned are mandatory).

 

I doubt anyone in NZ has the hard cash to get into the drilling market Catalyst, although there are a few offshore natural gas and petroleum rigs around NZ, mainly around Taranaki where there's a decent sized field.

However, we do have an oil refinery here - at Marsden Point near Whangarei. It can make about 100,000 Barrels per Day which isn't all that big on a global scale.

I'd wager that that's where the crude will be refined, although I haven't read enough into the subject to say.

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Not to be pedantic, but is this a question or a statement?

 

its the lyrics to the theme song..

 

'who lives in a pineapple under the sea'

 

'who died in an oil spill because of bp'

 

jeez. smarten up

Questions end in a question mark, don't they?

English is so fucking confusing!

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Not to be pedantic, but is this a question or a statement?

 

its the lyrics to the theme song..

 

'who lives in a pineapple under the sea'

 

'who died in an oil spill because of bp'

 

jeez. smarten up

Questions end in a question mark, don't they?

 

NOW your being pedantic.

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Not to be pedantic, but is this a question or a statement?

 

its the lyrics to the theme song..

 

'who lives in a pineapple under the sea'

 

'who died in an oil spill because of bp'

 

jeez. smarten up

Questions end in a question mark, don't they?

 

NOW your being pedantic.

You're.

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