dr_weazel Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 snow = my life!! there is nothing better than riding freshies on a perfect blue bird day stight up smoking bluntz. friction and graverty have to be the best things in life as with out these life would be soo gay. no barrels by nice waves, no super steazing lofty front 5's, no mega boned back smiths, no true stepping. i can not see my self wanting to live with out these things in life, this has been what has keept me slightly sane over the years with out it i would be a compleate fucking nut job. in regards to fresh shit yes rhys is a marster in that area. and it does not suprise me that if you cant find him in the store that he's off some where feinding on poker, its a boberg thing, its been spread like the dnb virus though the junglist community, we are infected bad. so dont bother trying to play ether of us at a game coz i know i will loot you and prob rhys as well with the amout of time i spend playing at the casino. all i know is that rhys is the rider i am the gambler. if you do want some snow goodies rhys really does know what he is talking about so does evoke as well. stright player gangsters Yea, I know Ducky knows his shit... so do I I can fully relate though. Snowboarding is my life too. Even though the Doc told me there's a 95% probability that I'll need a knee replacement by the time I'm 45 (fucked up cartilage and shit from boarding injuries) I still ride as much as possible. Just gotta get me a knee brace this year. It's all about blunts in the Turoa Snow-Cave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzp Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 if you got stiff shocks then shaving the springs a couple of coils is all good. its just when the shocks are soft it cant control the rebound hence the bouncing around like a munter. meh your car, would look a shitload better sacked be it legit or the alternative. ive had 28 cars, current have a 400hp skyline, i know me shit. :stalker: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pakage Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 vr4 2L twin turbs out of action atm tho. nothing major.. just needs a lil TLC when i get sum time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 vr4 2L twin turbs out of action atm tho. nothing major.. just needs a lil TLC when i get sum time. Mitsi Lancer MX Saloon, 1.5L automatic. Nothing wrong with it except for the fact that it is possibly one of the slowest, gheyest, most economical and boring cars ever created. The plus side is that it makes a great anti-theft device for my sound-system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dold Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 economical ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Mitsi Lancer MX Saloon, 1.5L automatic. Nothing wrong with it except for the fact that it is possibly one of the slowest, gheyest, most economical and boring cars ever created. The plus side is that it makes a great anti-theft device for my sound-system. ditto for my 95 Toyota (Toymotor) Corolla 1.6l, it has no electrics in it at all (I have to crank it up at the front to start it =p) As Nato said, with fuel prices like they are, a gutless POS car that will probably live longer than I will is the best bet. Plus you can throw a nice soundsystem in it and no one will bother to look =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzp Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 its all you need, so sick of fixing cars hence the move to 'trying' to dj which is a shitlaod cheaper, even tho its still fukin $$$$. .... on a side note, i had a fukin dream that you were driving a silver honda prelude nato and woke up with a wet patch down low; actually wouldnt go that far but woke up haunted and will never be the same agai n. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_weazel Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 if you got stiff shocks then shaving the springs a couple of coils is all good. its just when the shocks are soft it cant control the rebound hence the bouncing around like a munter. meh your car, would look a shitload better sacked be it legit or the alternative. ive had 28 cars, current have a 400hp skyline, i know me shit. :stalker: Sorry, but I dont care how many cars you've had, OR what you have now, ANYONE that says "shaving a couple of coils is all good" definitely does NOT "know their shit", they're just another muppet boy-racer more concerned with looks than functionality (in fact I've got a few mates on racecar pit-crews that would laugh their asses off at you for saying that). I have never been stupid enough to chop springs in any car I've had, even though I used to own one of the lowest Mazda Familias (1991 GT Sedan) in Auckland (apart from ones without ANY springs) which had a full targa racing suspension setup from Japan. It's STi suspension mate, not standard Forester shit suspension, The ONLY way to improve the handling would be to put Fully Adjustable Platform Suspension in it, and frankly, I cant be fucked, it's nothing but an expensive hassle, it wouldn't actually handle all that much better and if it was any lower it would just be a pain in the ass (driveways, speedbumps, dodgy rough campground in Ohakune that I always stay at, etc). But if you actually did "know your shit" you'd know that already. What I'm trying to say really, is that I dont give a shit what you think about the way my car looks. I personally think you're wrong, it would just look like another dumbass boy-racermobile if I "sacked it out" and I'm not down with that shit anymore. Tints for the front two side windows and a couple of pillar-mounted gauges are the only visual modification I'll be making to it. Although I will be getting the ECU unlocked and fully re-tuned, and possibly get the 2007 STi WRX turbo put on it so I can get about 235kW out of it. Instead of a stupidly low peice of shit that most normal people would look at and think "another stupid boy-racer rice-mobile", I'd rather have a sleeper that people THINK they can beat in a race, then get fucking smoked when they try it. I'm not looking to impress 16-17yr old girls with my "awesum sakd owt suby" anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 my main mode of transport is still a skateboard...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_weazel Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 my main mode of transport is still a skateboard...... Bro, you need to chop the trucks on that shit and sack it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 :wormpeek: swayze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pakage Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 my main mode of transport is still a skateboard...... Bro, you need to chop the trucks on that shit and sack it out! slap on some 12" chrome spinners on thurr and use crushed diamonds set in tar as your grip tape if you really feel like blinging it out fo rizzle! straight thuggin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_weazel Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 my main mode of transport is still a skateboard...... Bro, you need to chop the trucks on that shit and sack it out! slap on some 12" chrome spinners on thurr and use crushed diamonds set in tar as your grip tape if you really feel like blinging it out fo rizzle! straight thuggin Need some air-bags on that shit fo' real cuz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 hydraulics? Itll make poppin' ollies easier =p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pakage Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 my main mode of transport is still a skateboard...... Bro, you need to chop the trucks on that shit and sack it out! slap on some 12" chrome spinners on thurr and use crushed diamonds set in tar as your grip tape if you really feel like blinging it out fo rizzle! straight thuggin Need some air-bags on that shit fo' real cuz. for me, cars are about both looks and performance but i wouldnt sacrafice performance for looks, especially with something as critical as suspension. My car is lowered, but not by much and the springs arent chopped. propper king springs up in thur. Prefer it to be sleek and sexy, not bright and gawdy. fuck ridiculous chrome wheels and spinners and all that waste of money. The most excessive thing i got in my car is a 7" fold out tv screen and a dvd player head deck.. but thats not all flash flash bling bling, thats just dope for parkin up and having a blaze lol! (plus they were only about 3 hundi each) Obviously with your chouice of a 4wd wagon you're wanting to use it for stuff like snowboarding as you've mentioned. Lowering your car would decrese its practicality for your purposes and does seem kinda silly. a little low is good. 2 low is retarded. the bottom of my car has enuff scrapes as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzp Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 bro settle the fuk down. chopping springs = stiffer spring rate as there is less coil for it to spring. it increases the rebound rate hence the bouncyness. with a stiff shock absorber, slows the rebound rate as the rebound is transferred into the shock = harder stiffer ride with no bounce. obviously cutting to many coils off will turn them into a rock and inevitibly will get some of the bouncy rebound. ive had 2 other drift cars with that exact setup which handled mint and would take the sweeper at puke easily at 180k+. and as for unlocking your ecu, i do alot of that stuff myself however havnt touched a new sti like yours, have 2k worth of tuning gear which i fuk round with in my spare time (wideband o2, laptop emulator, tuning programs as well as plain hex editor, sensor input to laptop eg knock sensor airflowmeter voltage engine rpm engine temp wank wank wank) , basically remapping the ecu for a more agressive fuel map , as well as taking off your speed limiter, fuking with limiters, launch control bla bla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 ha ha......yeah na..... the skateboard is perfect in design....you cannot fault it. it doesnt need anything else removed or added. heaven forbid the day when they cannot be built out of wood. which will eventually happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzp Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 and yeh, my current liner has coil overs however handling is not much different to the previous drifter with choppies and stiff shocks; just has more adjustability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyraKil Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 air bags are the only option in my eyes why else would you want springs when you can change your ride hight any time. no more gay ass creaping over spead bumps. and olny humu ass rangi's chop springs if your going to do it might as well just get some supa low king springs. in relation to best form of transport i go with zeb on the sk8 board except have it dog powered and rolling with water proof bearings get form a to b quick as and your dog gets some exersize as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzp Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 ha ha......yeah na.....the skateboard is perfect in design....you cannot fault it. it doesnt need anything else removed or added. heaven forbid the day when they cannot be built out of wood. which will eventually happen. hover boards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 your not down with some ultra-light carbon-fibre steez? ...Would that even work? *skate-newb* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_weazel Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 my main mode of transport is still a skateboard...... Bro, you need to chop the trucks on that shit and sack it out! slap on some 12" chrome spinners on thurr and use crushed diamonds set in tar as your grip tape if you really feel like blinging it out fo rizzle! straight thuggin Need some air-bags on that shit fo' real cuz. for me, cars are about both looks and performance but i wouldnt sacrafice performance for looks, especially with something as critical as suspension. My car is lowered, but not by much and the springs arent chopped. propper king springs up in thur. Prefer it to be sleek and sexy, not bright and gawdy. fuck ridiculous chrome wheels and spinners and all that waste of money. The most excessive thing i got in my car is a 7" fold out tv screen and a dvd player head deck.. but thats not all flash flash bling bling, thats just dope for parkin up and having a blaze lol! (plus they were only about 3 hundi each) Obviously with your chouice of a 4wd wagon you're wanting to use it for stuff like snowboarding as you've mentioned. Lowering your car would decrese its practicality for your purposes and does seem kinda silly. a little low is good. 2 low is retarded. the bottom of my car has enuff scrapes as it is. Yea, my point exactly (except put in a slightly nicer fashion). There would be no point putting something like king springs in my car as the STi suspension would DEFINITELY be better, so the only choice really is a full adjustable coilover setup, and that shit is ridiculously expensive, especially after what I've just shelled out to buy the 2004 STi Forester. And as you say, lowering it would be impractical for me. And it's not like it NEEDS to look any better, shit, it gets enough looks now and it's completely standard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzp Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 lookin up to 2k for a decent coil over setup. of course you could go tein which is even more, however BC(identical to apexi) , kyb, hks, make some decent setups. but yeh, it is $$$$ like buying a pair of technics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_weazel Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 bro settle the fuk down. chopping springs = stiffer spring rate as there is less coil for it to spring. it increases the rebound rate hence the bouncyness. with a stiff shock absorber, slows the rebound rate as the rebound is transferred into the shock = harder stiffer ride with no bounce. obviously cutting to many coils off will turn them into a rock and inevitibly will get some of the bouncy rebound. ive had 2 other drift cars with that exact setup which handled mint and would take the sweeper at puke easily at 180k+. Chopping springs doesn't give you a stiffer spring rate, it just gives them less travel.. COMPRESSING your springs would give you a stiffer spring rate. But I'm not doing either one anyway, as they're both rangi as fuck, and I'm driving a 3yr old $30,000 car, not a $500 1986 Mitsi Tredia or some shit. There's also a MASSIVE difference between the way you want a RWD DRIFT car to handle (i.e you want it to have a tail-out tendency) and the way you want a 4WD car thats set up for real-world everyday road conditions to handle. (As I said, I have gotten advice from mates on racecar pit crews including the pit crew for Adam Richards, who I'm guessing you've probably heard of, and also my boss, whos "hobby" is racing a Porsche in the Porsche GT Cup, so I'm not just talking out a hole in my ass) P.S: Everyone I know in the industry reckons BC coilovers are shit. I was gonna put them in my OLD forester until I talked to a few people about them. You would have to spend AT LEAST 4-5grand to get GOOD adjustable coilovers for my car that would be better than the standard STi gear. (Trust me, I've looked into it, and the adjustables my mate put in his EVO 9 were that kinda price too). I think you're missing the point that the cars you've "chopped" in the past probably didn't have very good suspension to start with (much like my old Familia) so of course they'll benefit from pretty much ANY modification, whereas mine comes standard with badass suspension, so you'd have to go EXTREME to make any improvement. You're also missing the point that I dont WANT it lower than it already is. Too impractical for my purposes. And I am "settled" but you've gotta realise that you've just come out of nowhere to "diss" my car for not being up to your boy-racer style standards, when that's simply not what I'm into these days, how do you think you'd react if some random just started talking shit about how they thought your current car sucks and is set up badly or whatever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzp Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 i personally couldnt give a fuk what people think of my car. D2's are shit, BC's are all good , hell adam richard used to race on them, in the camo cefiro, as well as alot of the top drift guys. of course chopping em gives a stiffer spring rate, think of 1 coil, try to stand on it and compress it, it aint going to compress fuk all as opposed to 7 or what ever coils. compressing your springs is the worst thing you can do, they come back sloppy as fuk with with all different spring rates all around. they just heat them super hot and re coil them lower. with a drift car, you want it to have as much grip as possible, makes controlling the drift alot more stable (unless your driving a shitbox with no power), with as much castor as possible on the front wheels to help getting contact as much contact with the track when at high angles, neutral camber on the rear, and can play with the toe depending on howyou want it to handle. anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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